In an exclusive new film shot during Raf Simons SS14 show at the Gagosian gallery in Paris, graphic design legend Peter Saville – best known for the visual identity of Factory Records – and Belgian fashion designer and creative director of Dior Raf Simons speak openly. Having spent their lives plotting the in-between space dividing design and high art, pop and modernism, fashion and music, the duo began working together in 2003 when Raf used images from Peter’s archive in his AW03 collection. Here, these two giants of late 20th, early 21st century design talk about the term ‘interzone’ – the word popularised by Peter's friends Joy Division (and William Burroughs) about the liminal place they merrily plumb. As the fashion world recovers from Raf's defining SS14 statement last week, we hope you enjoy this short film.