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East Village Preservation Society: Club 57

We speak to Ann Magnuson and Kenny Scharf about how the grotty church basement helped create history - and publish an exclusive Club 57 image a day for two weeks over at the Dazed Tumblr

During a school theatre outing to New York in 1981, I managed to sneak away for a while to buy a few punk-rock records in the East Village. Walking down St. Mark’s Place, I saw a guy sporting the most outrageously high bleach-blond pompadour I’d ever seen. He was wearing a pink Teddy Boy suit and pink brothel creeper shoes. His companion was a busty blonde who looked like Dolly Parton, and dressed just like her, too. Even in the context of New York at that time, they were two groovy, glamorous celebrities from the future.

A few weeks later, I saw a photo of the flamboyantly dressed duo by Amy Arbus in the Village Voice, which must have been shot on the day that I saw them because they were wearing the same clothes. His name was John Sex and hers was Katy K. His profession was listed as “lounge singer/male stripper” and she was a fashion designer (Katy K did – and maybe still does – make stage clothes for Dolly Parton).

By the early 80s, the myth of Warhol and the sexy, druggy, doomed denizens who were his Factory’s superstars had spread pretty much everywhere, even to the remotest redneck corners of America (like my West Virginia hometown). For a certain type of kid, what they imagined Andy Warhol’s social life to be provided the impetus to move to New York City and reinvent themselves like the people in the photograph, who were associated with Club 57, a nightclub in the basement of a church where all the young art-school types hung out. They seemed like the second generation, drawn in by that Warhol myth but doing their own things.

East Village painters, musicians, performance artists, filmmakers, clothing designers and DJs had a second home at Club 57, run by Susan Hannaford, Tom Scully and performance artist Ann Magnuson, who was the manager, “den mother” and today the most emblematic person of that time and place. This trio provided an artsy/campy playground for the neighborhood misfits; Club 57 was a Fellini-esque salon for art shows, demented parties and elaborate DIY theme nights done on the cheap. The inspirations for the kooky neo-Dada Club 57 gestalt were things like The Sonny & Cher Show, kids TV shows, monster movies, 60s fashion, New Wave music and of course, Andy Warhol, its patron saint.

By the time I got to New York in 1984, Club 57 was gone, replaced by bigger clubs like Area and Danceteria, but the people who were a part of that scene still ruled New York nightlife. If you were at a party or art opening and people like Keith Haring, John Sex, Ann Magnuson, Joey Arias, Kenny Scharf, Fred Schneider and Jean-Michel Basquiat were there too, you knew you were in the right spot – they were the downtown royalty of the time. Within a few years, however, Hollywood had come calling for some and art-world fame and fortune for others. Then the ravages of Aids truly ended the era.

Some 25 years later, museums are starting to catalogue and preserve the East Village 80s for posterity. A huge exhibition of paintings, photographs, sculptures, posters, party invitations, costumes and more, culled from the personal collections of Ann Magnuson, Kenny Scharf, Joey Arias, Howie Pyro and others – and curated jointly by Magnuson and Scharf – opened at the Royal/T gallery in Los Angeles in late 2011. Magnuson and Scharf are currently trying to figure out where the exhibition will travel next.

We didn’t let anyone tell us ‘no’. We didn’t allow poverty to stop us from realising our wildest imaginings...

Richard Metzger: Nightlife scenes rarely form out of thin air; how did Club 57 come together?
Kenny Scharf:
Keith Haring, John Sex (then known simply as John McLaughlin), Drew Straub and I were basically wandering the streets in the middle of the day, students at the School of Visual Arts. After having a 50¢ drink at the Holiday Cocktail Lounge, we went next door to Club 57 and saw a great jukebox, so we stayed. When the music began, Ann appeared from behind the bar – yes, a bar serving alcohol at a youth club under a church – and we all started wildly go-go dancing. Thus our immediate bond began!

Ann Magnuson: The core Club 57 crowd definitely cohered in the church basement, but many of us first met at CBGB and Max’s Kansas City. I met Susan Hannaford and Tom Scully the year I arrived in NYC – 1978 – and we formed an alliance that produced the New Wave Vaudeville Show together. That was the show where Klaus Sperber metamorphosed into Klaus Nomi. Almost everyone involved with the vaudeville show migrated over to Club 57. Kenny brought in his fellow SVA students like Keith Haring, Wendy Wild and John Sex. I knew Jean-Michel Basquiat already.

Kenny Scharf: Ann and Klaus Nomi came to my first show in 1979 at the Fiorucci boutique, and she asked me if I would like to show some art at Club 57. Soon after, I had a show called Celebration of the Space Age, where we served Tang and Space Food Sticks.

Ann Magnuson: Others were simply drawn in off the street by the posters for the Monster Movie Club. The original Misfits came in that way. The jukebox drew people in who liked to dance. Club 57 basically became a magnet for anyone interested in punk rock, obscure horror and exploitation films, 60s fashion and alternative neo-Dada theatre experiences. It was truly a neighbourhood hangout so anyone in the East Village who cared to could drift in and out. Some stayed longer than others.

There was a photo of a giant phallus at the entrance, and when I saw the church father coming towards us I had to head him off. It’s amazing we got away with what we did. In fact, a special neighbourhood meeting was called to complain about us

Richard Metzger: Club 57 seems like it was running parallel to punk/New Wave in NYC, but not necessarily a part of it. How much overlap was there?
Ann Magnuson:
Oh, Club 57 was definitely part of punk and New Wave. And everyone who went to Club 57 went to the Mudd Club too, or Max’s, or even Hurrah’s uptown.

Kenny Scharf: We all went to CBGBs and the Mudd Club, too, but Club 57 was really ours.

Richard Metzger: It seems like there was a lot of that Judy Garland/Mickey Rooney ‘Hey kids, let’s put on a show!’ spirit at Club 57. What are some of the ‘happenings’ that occurred there?

Ann Magnuson:
We didn’t let anyone tell us ‘no’. We didn’t allow poverty to stop us from realising our wildest imaginings. One of my favorites was Putt-Putt Reggae, where we built a miniature golf-course out of boxes pulled from the trash and made it resemble a Jamaican shanty town, and the DJ played dub music. We had a hash-brownie-fuelled slumber party with go-go boys that the church father walked in on...

Kenny Scharf:
It was terrible to leave town even for a few days for fear of missing something.

Ann Magnuson:
Keith Haring curated the Erotic Art Show. There was a photo of a giant phallus at the entrance, and when I saw the church father coming towards us I had to head him off. It’s amazing we got away with what we did. In fact, a special neighbourhood meeting was called to complain about us. The neighbours asked Father John why he ‘allowed evil people in the church’ and he said, ‘That’s where evil people should be, in a church.’ God bless him!

Kenny Scharf: One night, I think it was Elvis night, we started a street brawl where I ended up hitting an off-duty cop on the head for punching a girl I knew in the face. It was dismissed because he was arrested on the court date for murdering his boyfriend.

Ann Magnuson: Another event was called Radio Free Europe, because I was obsessed with these communist fashion and lifestyle magazines I had found, and the neighbourhood was predominately Polish and Ukrainian anyway, so why not? I debuted my Russian pop star character Anoushka there (with her band Polska ’66). We gave (Russian accent) ‘free beet and potato at door’ to the members.

Richard Metzger: When you say ‘members’, what does that mean?
Kenny Scharf: ‘Members’ refers to a core group, more like a family in a way.

Ann Magnuson: There was an actual membership, too. I think it was about $3 to join. We technically had to have it as a private ‘members only’ club to serve alcohol. The property manager repeatedly reminded me that if ‘anyone’ (meaning a cop) asked what was going on, that this was a church ‘youth club’.

Richard Metzger: You mentioned before how Klaus Nomi emerged from his cocoon at the vaudeville show, but what about John Sex? Wasn’t he a nice Catholic boy from Long Island before he started hanging around with you heathens?
Kenny Scharf:
I had a lot to do with John Sex becoming John Sex. When we met at school, he had one eyebrow and a mullet and was going out with Wendy Wild. We’d double date, and one night we ditched the girls and I plucked his eyebrows and applied black eyeliner and cut his mohawk into spikes. Then we went to see The B-52’s. He became John Sex soon after that.

Richard Metzger: Was it a really promiscuous time? What about drugs?
Ann Magnuson: This was pre-Aids, in the 70s, so yes, it was very promiscuous. We had grown up watching the hippie counter-culture on TV and were all highly informed by the excesses of Bowie and glam rock. We couldn’t wait to get out of home, move to NYC and emulate people we’d seen on TV and in magazines. When I saw the New York Dolls on the streets of my very own neighbourhood, I thought I’d died and gone to heaven. If heaven was the party scene from Midnight Cowboy.

Kenny Scharf:
It was mostly just alcohol and psychedelics.

Richard Metzger: What kind of rent did one pay in NYC at that time? Did anyone have any ‘real’ jobs?

Ann Magnuson: My rent was $150 a month and I felt I was getting a raw deal because [Club 57 resident DJ] Dany Johnson’s rent was $50 a month. I don’t know many people who had real jobs. It was cheap to live in the East Village then. You really could orchestrate your life so you could completely avoid the nine-to-five world.

Kenny Scharf: Hardly anyone had a real job except for Wendy Wild, who worked at the Utrecht art store and gave us free supplies. Rent was super cheap, anywhere from $50 to $300, as well as the squats.

Like any scene, it had an expiration date. The appearance of this mysterious disease, at first called ‘gay cancer’, then ARC, then Aids, devastated our community. Reagan’s re-election in 1984 was, to my mind, the official end

Richard Metzger: How did Club 57 fall apart?
Ann Magnuson: Like any scene, it had an expiration date. The appearance of this mysterious disease, at first called ‘gay cancer’, then ARC, then Aids, devastated our community. Reagan’s re-election in 1984 was, to my mind, the official end. MTV came into being and the commodification of everything we held dear began, and… Well, everyone had to eventually grow up. You can’t live in a $150/month hovel forever. Also I was starting to get work as an actress – I went to London in 1982 to be David Bowie’s first victim in the vampire film The Hunger. And I also wanted to focus on my performance art career.

Kenny Scharf: It really started to unravel when money came into the picture, when Keith and Jean-Michel started to make the big bucks and art seemed more about money than art.

Richard Metzger: How does it feel to see your youth become history as the big museums start to catalogue the era?
Ann Magnuson: I figured it would happen and am happy and grateful I was part of that incredibly creative and frenetic time. I sure hope I can cash out some day and sell off these archives! My office is looking like a scene out of Hoarders.

Kenny Scharf: We knew what was going on was very special, the last of its kind in New York City before MTV came along and co-opted being cool for the rest of America.

Richard Metzger: The East Village art scene’s heyday is something a lot of people too young to have experienced it are curious about, seeing it as a time like Paris in the 20s, perhaps. Why do you think there’s still an interest in what happened in those few square miles between 1979 and 1984?
Ann Magnuson: Maybe young people today have been led to believe they’ll all come out of art school and instantly become rich and famous, and here it is: an economic depression and there’s nothing, so they’re curious how people did it. Younger people tell me they’re fascinated to know there was a time and place when you could be wildly creative without money and, for a brief time, without even wanting money. All the bohemias of the past had one thing in common: they existed at moments in history when a group of losers said, ‘Fuck you’, and turned dystopia into their own kind of utopia.

The interview appeared in the March issue of Dazed & Confused

To see exclusive and unseen images from Club 57 and the 80s East Village art scene, log on to the Dazed Digital Tumblr where we will publish a new one each day for two weeks...